Family Dyamics, Baldwin vs. Diaz

As we discussed Junot Diaz’s “Fiesta, 1980,” we pointed out the similarities between the families in that story and in Baldwin’s “The Rockpile.” The biggest thing that tied them together was of course the role of each father figure in their respective family. Both Gabriel and Yunior’s father displayed dominance and physical power over their children and family, resulting in conflict amongst the family members and emotions of fear, anger, and hate. Because of this dynamic, each mother feels (for the most part) powerless to make any change on their husbands behavior and therefore become distant from their partners. But it doesn’t just stop at the fathers. Interestingly enough, the two families are actually quite similar in the characteristics of almost every member.

Take for example the father and son interaction that occurs in each household. In each case, there is one son who is treated worse than the other, with such treatment taking the form of verbal and physical abuse and even neglect. While the reasons for such favoritism are different, the outcome is largely the same. After a clear violation of the family’s rules, Roy, the participant of such event, is left unharmed, while John, an innocent bystander, is yelled at, beaten with a belt, and left with the blame of the situation. Similarly, Yunior is scolded  and threatened by his father for a reaction he has no control over, and is subsequently blamed for such event. Although Rafa had little to do with the event, it is alluded to that Yunior is largely the one targeted in the household (with Rafa largely left unharmed). Ironically, while Roy and Rafa are the more reckless of the sons, they are the ones who get off the easiest. Whether related or not, Roy and Rafa are also the ones who take after their father the most. Roy prides himself in being “daddy’s boy” (and uses it to suck up to his father and avoid punishment) and Rafa shapes his persona and identity after what he thinks would make his father most proud.


The dynamic between the father and the other family members also shapes the relationship between the siblings and mother, and amongst themselves. Both mothers are protective of the sons who are treated worse, and as such, are more distant from the more reckless ones. While one may argue that it is because John is not his father’s child, his mother still surrenders to Gabriel’s ultimate will. Roy’s mother does show affection and care for him initially, but it is clear the relationship is much different than the one he holds with his father. Similarly, we see almost no interaction between Rafa and his mother, and even though she feels for Yunior, she is reluctant to help him. Additionally, Yunior himself feels that he cannot connect with her as well as he might have liked, and their connection is lost largely due to his father’s mistress. Whether or not the authors purposely modeled the families in such a similar fashion, there is still a significance in the structure of the family dynamic itself. Both Baldwin and Diaz understood the impact of an abusive father on a family and the rift it could create. In a sense, the single character of the father works as the centerpiece, influencing almost every other character interaction.

Comments

  1. I agree- these families are incredibly similar. I can't help but wonder if the favoritism for the more reckless boys stems from the boys reminding the fathers of themselves. We know that both fathers are hard, dominant, and controlling, and their favorite boys seem to be growing into similar personalities. It's interesting that while Roy hates his father, we don't see Rafa bashing on his father in the same way. I believe this comes from the years of separation between Rafa and his Papi, which led to an idolization that Roy never got the chance to develop. Nice post :)

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  2. This was my first reaction to reading "Fiesta, 1980": that these two families were remarkably similar. The relationships between Yunior and Papi and Johnny and Gabriel was what hit me. There's that scene when they're at the party and Yunior is looking in Papi's eyes and thinks how much he hates him. This struck me as very similar to a scene in "The Outing", where Johnny says he wants to kill his father. Good post!

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  3. I did not immediately see the connection between father figures between "The Rockpile" and "Fiesta, 1980" but your blog post definitely give me insight into how I could view the connection between stories. The relationship between father and son is nearly identical. One difference I can see is that in "The Rockpile" we get a hint to why the relationship is so tense. The fact that John is bastard creates the rift but we do not see that in "Fiesta, 1980". Just something to keep in mind.

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  4. I agree that the relationship between the son and father in both stories is very similar. I think there is one difference in that Gabriel clearly loves Roy more and treats him better. Papi seems to pick on Yunior because he always manages to mess up something— not necessarily because Papi loves Rafa more.

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  5. I think that the relationships with the mother is different as well. Yunior seems much more worried about his mother than John is. This is mostly because of the affair that their father is having, but I think this changes the dynamic slightly. In "The Rockpile" the father uses the mother's infidelity as an excuse to be even harsher to her. While in "Fiesta, 1980" there are definitely tensions but there isn't quite the same level of direct conflict between the parents, just a sense of extremely heightened tensions, especially because of the father's affair.

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  6. I do think it's interesting to compare these two families because they do have a lot of similarities. I think Roy and Rafa are very different, though. Which is one thing that I think makes the comparison more interesting and complex. But the fact is, their fathers clearly do love them the most out of the children.

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  7. I like your point that the father is the centerpiece that causes the development of the characters around him. It's definitely true because we see each character react and adapt in their own way to the father's abusive/harmful actions: the mothers tend to retreat into themselves, the reckless "daddy's boys" continue to be reckless without punishment, and the kid that is targeted the most by the father feels hatred and loneliness. It's kinda sad that this dynamic could possibly be prevalent enough to be a common theme in two very different books of stories.

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